Originally Posted by
Regularguy
Otto:
I've been here over three decades and know many of the players on the UAL MEC personally. Again I will say this about many of yours and others posts here, the smell of fear and personal gain (or loss).
Continue to misquote, speculate without any knowledge of the facts and hurt the process of negotiation if you must. But the simple fact is, and you can deny it as much as you want, the time is here to get off the pot. Either you are in this for United pilots or your not. So far from all you write all I can only make the conclusion your not.
Whether you like it or not JP has publicly said, "I'm in this for the CAL pilots." So it can't be any clearly than that, he is not doing his best to advance a JCBA.
My challenge for you is simple this are you in for us all? If you are then quit the two contract garbage and demand your reps to support the release and Heppner's guidance for all of us.
Fear will destroy and knows no boundaries.
Lets stop talking about how long we've been doing it. I think if I go to the simulator building again and hear a UAL guy say "we've been doing this since the wright brothers soloed" ....whatever. Don't insult us please by telling us how long you've been doing it. We've been there too. I respect your experience, but don't discount mine or assume I haven't been doing it as long as you have, or perhaps longer...........
You are wrong. JP has been doing his best to advance the JCBA. That's why he is not tossing hand grenades every week. If anything else, he has been more disciplined, more patient, more deliberate, and more measured than his counterpart, or his predecessor.
I think our COM discipline is vastly improved and that is likely due to the fact that JP has had to baby sit some inmature reps in the big bases at CAL. The entire MEC has had to re-think COM and likely compress 10 years of learning into about 4.
You are dead wrong. I am in it for the UAL pilots. Every one. But, I think the quickest way to get there is 2 seperate short term deals that deal with big issues for these two pilot groups. That may be the medicine we both need to progress as mature adults. I honestly see that as the quickest way to the long term JCBA we all seek.
It also brings more leverage. UAL MEC already has an injunction on it that I see in the COM messages. That would give CAL pilots more leverage in the respect that we are not as limited there. The great summer adventure is nearly here. UCH management has but one NC team. We could easily take our two MEC's and go after 2 CBA's and attack the problem in a pincer movement rather than a frontal assault. Don't you see the positives here?