A few questions to help shed some light on the future upgrade time.

1. How many AA flow throughs are there at Eagle?

2. I am guessing Eagle did not hire after 9/11. When did they resume hiring?

3. Does anyone have hiring numbers from 1999 through 2006. That could be VERY helpful.


I know Eagle has an older pilot group, and several career Eagle pilots. It is very unfortunate that they want to change age 60 as this will only compound the upgrade problem at Eagle.

According to APC, Eagle has 3,200 pilots. It's safe to assume to 1/2 are capts and 1/2 are FO's (That's about 1600 FO's). If they hire 700 pilots this year, and you are in the first few groups of new hires, you should be a somewhat senior FO after only one year.
Now I know that is because so many FO's are jumping ship just for the upgrade, but all that needs to happen is :
1. Flow throughs back to AA
2. A few age 60 retirements
3. A few captains leaving for FedEX, UPS, Continental, Southwest, Delta, United, etc...

And as soon as most junior captain gets to September 2001, it should almost instantly jump to about a 4 year upgrade. Not the best, but not this terrible forever wait that has been in the last several years.

I think what Eagle needs to do is up their FO pay, especially year 3,4,5... At most regionals, people can put up with 1st and 2nd year FO pay because they know by year 3/4 they are making Regional captain pay, and that is a liveable wage. Eagle needs to raise their year 3, 4, 5, 6 FO pay to a somewhat liveable wage if they are to have any hope of recruiting pilots.