Originally Posted by
FlySlow
Here is the latest: (more should be known Sat. 21, USAPA has a conf call at 10am, more details should be out at that time).
(This is still not official):
Notes from APA meeting:
1. Deal should be finished by end of summer
2. Expedited arbitration for seniority (DAL/NWA percentile)
3. Medical costs go from 14% to 17%
4. 787 orders will remain
5. 319 orders to be converted to 320/321
6. Keep current duty rigs
7. A Plan frozen. B Plan will be 14% to 401K
8. Stay with One World. Leave Star Alliance
9. Name remains AA
10. HQ is DFW not PHX
11. Pay is 5% raise on date of signing. 3% from 2 to 6 years, than average of
UAL/DAL 319 pay rates.
12. Vacation to 3+40 per day
13. East Pilots will eventually get between 25% to 30% pay raise, but no timeline given
14. Get rid of 50 seat aircraft.
15. Scope is reduced
16. Keep AA's Boeing/Airbus order. No word on A350 or US Airways orders
Found this in another thread:
Subject: Notes from APA Meeting
Name stays AA
HQ in DFW
US comes to Oneworld (hurts UAL)
Pay banding
Starting point is current green book.
5.5% raise on date of signing
3% / yrs 2-6, then avg of UAL/DAL
A319 no longer a sep payband
Vac goes to 3+40/day. Better accrual
Hard freeze & 14% DC Plan
PBS. US West pilots love it. Well managed. Lines 83. P/u to 90. Keep current rigs.
Scope committee is "giddy" with what is offered. Parker doesn't understand code share. He wants the revenue. Max Dom code share = 4% of total asm's.
Keeping AA's Boeing/Bus order. Very excited to get 787.
Unsure about AE. Parker wants to see books then decide. Hates 50 seaters. Prob convert most 319 orders to 320/321's.
Med costs will go from 14% to 17% (I think 1113 had it going to 26%.
Not a sure thing, but APA seems quite confident. No timeline given, more than 2 mos, possibly by end of summer. Horton is said to be steaming mad.
Seniority may go to expedited arbitration. Expect percentile in type over any DOH (aka DAL/NWA)
US East guys will get about 25-30% raise out of this.