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Old 04-25-2012 | 11:35 AM
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Hey Scoop,

Originally Posted by Scoop
First of all, I disagree with your premise - a PRO vs. CON paper does not necessarily expose differences within. But going along with your scenario, if the vote is 10-4 (hypothetical) to forward to membership for approval don't you want to hear why the 4 voted no? Conversely the vote can be uananimous to forward, but this does not mean every Rep likes everything about it.
No, because I don't need to be baby-sat, or instructed. As Scambo and others said, we don't need a sell-job for. Why would I want a sell-job against?

I want to hear how my reps voted, and I don't need it in writing. Why do I care how a rep that doesn't work for me feels?

Every watch soccer? You know how a defensive team can suddenly pullback to create an off-side? Some reps live for the politics, and they live for that stuff. The moment a vote is up, a vote they know will pass/must pass, they'll tally up the totals, then make it a point to be the (not so) loyal opposition.

I don't want to play along with that game.

By definition, if the NC turns it over to the MEC, it's the MEC's job to decide. The NC should present it, and not baby-sit the MEC. When the MEC decides to pass to us, the decision becomes ours. Any input from the reps at that point becomes either a sell job, or an attempt to influence me the other way.

Either one is unsat.

I agree the internet and this forum will serve a sort of PRO vs. CON function, but I would prefer an official one via the negotiating committee. While there is some great information on this thread there is also a lot of chaff.
OK, this is a little different than the other paragraph. Would I want to get notes from the NC, as opposed to the MEC? I suppose the NC is subject to the same games the MEC is subject to, so I would say I probably don't want to hear different opinions. But I would like to have a single document put out by the NC showing the logic that led them where they ended up, so I could second-guess their work on my own terms. I would definitely like some feedback on how this compares to the polling, along the simple lines Ferd suggested.