In your opinion it is reality. You seem to think that if YOUR version if what is acceptable isn't put before the pilot group that it will be a referendum on DALPA. Maybe.. it will, but probably it will not, IF in the opinion of the majority of the group it is an acceptable TA. YOU.. and Carl.. and the rest of the donuts will be unhappy, but that is to be expected. Everybody doesn't have to be orgasmic about the TA, they just have to be satisfied enough to vote yes. I am guessing that you are new to this because of the way that you have single issue no votes. Got news for ya pal... You will probably be disappointed, because as I have said before.. EVERYTHING.. and I mean EVERYTHING, is negotiable.

Rant on soldier, I am at peace with the process, and threats and donut BS doesn't scare me, other than the fact that it might mean 4 or 5 more years of a BK contract at a minimum..