Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Funny that you give your fellow Delta pilots no credit for being able to put historical failure* and current "ALPA speak" together and reach a fairly accurate conclusion about the direction given to our negotiators on Section 1.
If I had a subcontractor who say, painted houses ... and I asked he paint a house brown and not get paint on my truck, it would be no more acceptable for him to paint my truck brown than it is for ALPA to come back and say "well, the first thing you all asked for is pay."
What ALPA's analysis of the DPA threat fails to recognize is the change which will occur as a result of ALPA's own actions. The DPA has never been something anyone other than a small handful of pilots support. It is what a large number of pilots see as an alternative to ALPA's repeated failure understand unity.
I'm with ACL, if there is a deal we will look at it and discuss it on its merits. That should not be interpreted to mean that a single additional outsourced jet will be accepted. These airplanes can be flown by Delta seniority list pilots.
You have no idea the strength of our resolve. Our pilots are better educated than they have ever been. There are more of us. The Northwest guys, God love 'em, are willing to speak up. If ALPA wants to keep working for us, we must be treated with respect. That means every single pilot ... if one pilot has a problem, we all have a problem.
... and Delta management has got to understand this as well. The NWA guys struck. Our current pilot group will strike over the continued outsourcing of our jobs.
Bar, I will be the first to vote no if there is a increase in 76 seat jets. I am not however going to get all upset over a section that has not even been discussed yet. I have long stated that John Malone's decision to allow the EMB170/175 at DCI was DALPA's biggest error. Perhaps he honestly knew the company would file chapter 11 if that was not a part of LOA 46 and felt there was no choice. Certainly once we were in the 1113 process the increase to 76 seats was a train we were not going to stop. That is why the initial decision to up the gross weight in LOA 46 was so critical.
Keep in mind however there are two sides to scope. One side you always refuse to recognize. If you can't fly the flying at the mainline within a few percentages points of the cost to fly it at DCI you lose not only the flying but the feed to the mainline if you scope it out. As I have stated from day one on this forum I believe we can do that with the 170/175. I don't believe we can do it with smaller jets. There is a need for feeder airlines. We have always had them and they hold a valid place in our system. We just let the balance move to far with the 170/175.