Originally Posted by
horrido27
^+1 (Slammer)
Great Post.
As I stated earlier (my opinion), that if we go down the road to separate contracts, this will be the defining moment.
Side note, wrote an Email to Lee Moak/ALPA National last night. Got a reply and hopefully will be able to see him face to face at the next Union meeting in EWR.
Motch
Your MC stated, again, that we were having good progress and success with our small group meetings. You know, the meetings that occur once a week, continue to advance and then retreat back to 2010 positions, and include NOBODY in management authorized to make a decision. This is good progress and success?? Managment can go on like this indefinitely. Your MC is failing you, which is sad. But since we are a team now, he's also failing me, which I am unwilling to accept.
Your MC has done MORE than his fair share to ensure that relationships between the two MEC's is tenuous at best. Read very carefully what he wrote about wanting joint meetings. He called those to discuss the UAL MEC grievance and lawsuits regarding the profit sharing and CAL Grievance settlements. Then he included "minor stipulations". What would those be?? That we only talk about what he wants to talk about? Why didn't he call those meetings to GET A JCBA?!
I'm truly sorry that it has come to this, for we, the pilots, all lose. There are two positions that each of us can decide to support. One MC is saying that things are going GREAT, and we are making REAL PROGRESS! The other is saying that the company is toying with us, and enough is enough. In evaluating which is correct, I ask: How many critical sections of our agreement are competed? Answer. 0. How many meetings in 2012 have decision making level management attended? Answer. 0. How many months have we been working on work rules? Answer. I lost count. How close are we to reaching an agreement on this section of the contract? Answer. Managment just retreated to 2010 positions on R and I issues.
I don't care which MC calls for ACTION.... That's the guy I'm following.