Originally Posted by Zoomie

I agree with the original poster regarding our EWR reps words concerning the pace of negotiations. I hate every word of it. I also despise JP saying almost the same thing to the press about a month ago. Here's some of the problem. UAL pilots won't ever control who the CAL MEC chairman or who the CAL reps are...

Let me reiterate, the UAL side with its recent actions have just made it harder, not easier, to replace anyone the UAL side might not like on the CAL side.

Anyone ever heard the old Aesop's fable regarding "The wind and the sun"? While not a perfect analogy, I think you'll get my point. The more the UAL group tries to affect the leadership of the CAL group, the less likely anything will happen to the CAL leadership.

Even the reps that I'm pretty sure don't agree with JP on most issues, support him when it comes to having the UAL MEC dictate who will lead the CAL group. That's reality here. The more the UAL MEC pushes to have the CAL chairman removed, the less likely its going to happen.

How did that whole "Glenn's gotta go" campaign work out?

It's human nature and psychology here. If you want someone gone and you know they're bad for the company/union you can't force them out when you work for the other side. You have to convince the other side (CAL side) that the person is bad for them. Explaining to CAL pilots that the person who got them profit sharing is the bad guy is not going to be a successful campaign.