Chris I would certainly agree with that statement a few years ago. With the airline hiring coming to a near halt ATP now has instructors that have been there for several years which has increased the quality of instruction SOME. I do think that pilot mills (yes I am going to ATP) can be guilty of training a person to a check ride but there are plenty of schools guilty of that. After all ATP has built a reputation for getting you done the fastest. If a bank would lend money to Flight Safety I would go there as they are highly reputable and the academics far exceed any school I have send. What's the problem? Who has 70K sitting in the bank to pay there tuition? Not many people I know. Again when I go to ATP I will be sure to write a report to keep everyone up to date. Every ATP instructor I have PERSONALLY flown with has been top notch and all don't lack in knowledge but all these instructors have the same personality as me. I expect to run into cocky and arrogant pilots while ATP because of the kind of school you are dealing with. The instructor I had to fly with for my admissions flight was telling me the first partner he had for XC almost killed them because he had them in a 3,000 feet per minute decent rate and he started yelling at him and the guy just let go of the controls. The student subsequently let got kicked out but that's what it took. This could've happened at any school as flight schools are a business and need to generate money. I just read an article in Flight Training magazine about an instructor who is (was as I just started March's) training an instrument student who has failed multiple check rides and been kicked out of multiple schools. This is proof that these students are every where. On a different note Chris how is the Tecnam to fly?