Originally Posted by
johnso29
Why don't you give me multiple examples. After all, Amerijet does make smoking wages. And nobody crossed the picket line, right? APA went to the tables slamming their fists and screaming. That got them far. We all know how well USAPA is doing. And IBT, well they're just burning it up. Republic has been in contract negotiations for 7 years. The AT independent union never got a contract done. I'll be waiting.
I brought up the Amerijet as an example of cross union and cross class and craft support.
IBT? In the joint CBA that merged Atlas and Polar, Polar went up over 34% and Atlas 27%. Captain on a -400 is over $200/hr. Not as good as some, but with the rigs and profit sharing (18.5%) for 2010 and 2011 going out in a week or so, that put over $25,000 in a lot of folks pockets. Under the new CBA, a projected trip that under the old contract was worth about $14,000 will pay out over $21,000. Remember also it's their second contract.
Omni just came up substantially. Republic has been hamstrung by the old, failed leadership that was kicked out three years ago. The merger delayed discussions, but they will move up as well. UAL Mechanics...up and now merging for an even bigger bite of the apple, along with the agreements that brought back all MRO worked that had been farmed out offshore, bringing back furloughed members.
Cape Air...first contract with increases. Ever heard of a 402 Captain making close to $100K a year?
UPS Mechanics well into six digits.
Fact is, they have yet under the new leadership, to agree to a concessionary contract. Any attempts to bring them forward have been met with a message that the IBT will not sign them.
You can point at the bottom all you want. What you miss and won't admit it that unless we support each other, everyone is at risk. (And yes, Airline Division pilots joined ALPA brothers at Spirit to walk the line in support, just like the Spirit guys did for them)
ALPA wasn't interested in Amerijet...too small, not worthy. ALPA PILOTS stood with them as did individual MEC's and LEC's. National refused.
We're all in this together. Until we start acting like it and truly support each other, pilots, F/A's, mechanics, loaders, fuelers...we're gonna keep getting picked off just like we saw in the 80's and 90's.
You might ask yourself how many new airlines have joined ALPA in the past 4 years? How's the model working right now? What is ALPA's current growth rate?
I personally don't care if you look into things or not. Sometimes facing the truth and making change to survive is just too big a step for some.
AirTran...aren't they the pilots that just filed a DFR against ALPA? Like TWA did? And the UAL senior...and junior pilots? Seems like a trend...