Hey!!! I enjoy that debate, and yes I have a passion about it because I firmly believe it is the right thing at the right time. But I have also resigned myself to the reality that it will probably never happen. I don't issue an ultimatum that if we don't get it, I am voting no. I also acknowledge that this place is a microcosm of the larger group and that the more radical fringe hangs out here. Thus the ultimatums we see on a daily basis here sometime catch me in a "I'm tired of all the idle threats" mood....

So, sorry, 88 just caught me in that mood... Stallone is fixin to kill somebody.. back to TV.