Originally Posted by gunter

i don't care how much experience you have working on this stuff, you've clearly lost it. We all get you're very po'd at alpa. Really.

In house unions are easier to manage than a national union. But it's also easier for nefarious characters to totally infiltrate an in house union. Either of those don't really compare to the ibt.

Defending the ibt is really gutsy considering their track record over the last 10-20 years. They've been kicked off of a lot properties for just cause. Too bad you don't feel the need to look back that far. Smart comments aren't going convince us to ignore their checkered past.

In short, there's a lot of warts to go around. Often it's inappropriate credit the success or blame failure on the union. The personality of the pilot group very often comes into play. Not to mention the quality of the business model or management team.