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Old 05-09-2012 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
I don't care how much experience you have working on this stuff, you've clearly lost it. We all get you're very PO'd at ALPA. Really.

In house unions are easier to manage than a national union. But it's also easier for nefarious characters to totally infiltrate an in house union. Either of those don't really compare to the IBT.

Defending the IBT is really gutsy considering their track record over the last 10-20 years. They've been kicked off of a lot properties for just cause. Too bad you don't feel the need to look back that far. Smart comments aren't going convince us to ignore their checkered past.

In short, there's a lot of warts to go around. Often it's inappropriate credit the success or blame failure on the union. The personality of the pilot group very often comes into play. Not to mention the quality of the business model or management team.
Nicely written...but inaccurate. I invite you to enlighten everyone as to how many properties the Airline Division has been "kicked off" of in the past 4 years under the new leadership brought in from outside the IBT. Enlighten us all about the track record of successes...and failures under the new leadership.

Maybe you can also tell us about how many concessionary contracts they have signed in that time. Or how much they have shrunk...or grown...in terms of membership.

Your argument about what happened 10-20 years ago...under different leadership and using that as your basis for making factual observations makes about as much sense as using last Wednesdays weather for planning a fuel load.

And no, I'm not PO'd at ALPA. I wore those wings for over 25 years with great pride. It breaks my heart to see what people with self serving agendas have done to the people of ALPA and the pilots.
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