Originally Posted by
TheManager
Well folks, we must be close to a TA. Alfa is back defending DALPA communications and beginning the sell.
Just the first sentence of his above post is what I believe to be condescending and quite simply arrogant. "Junior guys" are subjected to reserve most often not by choice. Presently, they and their families live and breath the conditions and hardships of performing this on call duty for years at a time due to the shrinking of our seniority list and woefully inadequate section 1.
It has been my experience that these "junior guys who don't have enough knowledge of the contract to the issues of reserves" understand it inside and out. They can easily describe the good, the bad, the ugly, the pitfalls and few benefits inside and out. They know this section better than any line holding pilot or FPL bureaucrat.
So alfa, welcome back. It appears you will be quite busy here, on the other board, and in lounges in the near future. I hope we have a good and reasonable TA not only for us pilots but for DALPA as well. They have only one shot at this. However, in regards to the coming TA, it will be dissected here and across the web into the postitive and the negative. You are going to be busy. Just as busy as we are going to be doing a thorough due dilligence of a TA and disseminating that information as well.
No, this is condescending: Put your damn man pants on and quit whining like a girl. Maybe you think I was hired on in the top 50% or something, but yes I was junior, and yes I bet I have put in more years on reserve than you have.
I said it was understandable that junior guys might not have had the time to understand all the related sections of the contract and thus have made incorrect analyses here. It is not understandable for a senior guy not to know his contract because that is just lazy. So once again, put your man pants on and quit whining like a little girl.
The reserve system we have now is light years better than the one I worked under when I was junior on reserve. We were on short call every day, we had no such thing as long call, and we had fewer days off. IF we reach an agreement, this reserve system will be the best reserve system we have ever had in my career at Delta. Even more days off, more pay, more opportunities to control your schedule. So quit playing the whiny poor me card, you are not the first pilot to stagnate on the list. I was an MD-88 first officer in year 8 of my career, boo hoo for me, let's all cry.
There are some items that are concessions but that is why they call it negotiations. Each side has to get something out of the deal. Management has a virtual 4 or 5 year free pass from the NMB if we want to act like thugs and just make demands. Please go ask American, United, Continental, and US Airways how their demand based negotiations have worked out. So do you want to wait 4 or 5 years or do you want to have a real negotiation that actually occurs in the grown up world?
IF we reach a deal, then we will improve every section of our contract, especially Section 1. We will also shove hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars in our pockets, IF we can reach a deal. A deal involves both sides agreeing. So unless you have someone's family member duct taped inside a closet, you better be ready to have some give and take at the table.
If you offer a monkey hundreds and hundreds of bananas and then want a few back, what do you think the monkey will do? Even a monkey will make that trade. So go ahead and vote no and complain, because you never stop complaining anyway. See, that is what it is like when I am condescending. Can you take it, or do you just dish it out?