Originally Posted by alfaromeo

There are some items that are concessions but that is why they call it negotiations. Each side has to get something out of the deal. Management has a virtual 4 or 5 year free pass from the NMB if we want to act like thugs and just make demands. Please go ask American, United, Continental, and US Airways how their demand based negotiations have worked out. So do you want to wait 4 or 5 years or do you want to have a real negotiation that actually occurs in the grown up world?

IF we reach a deal, then we will improve every section of our contract, especially Section 1. We will also shove hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars in our pockets, IF we can reach a deal. A deal involves both sides agreeing. So unless you have someone's family member duct taped inside a closet, you better be ready to have some give and take at the table.

If you offer a monkey hundreds and hundreds of bananas and then want a few back, what do you think the monkey will do? Even a monkey will make that trade. So go ahead and vote no and complain, because you never stop complaining anyway. See, that is what it is like when I am condescending. Can you take it, or do you just dish it out?