Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

Most of the Hawaii three day trips are worth around 11 hours, with the last leg being an allnighter back to LAX, SEA, SLC. NYC has plenty of 3 day trips that leave JFK late and get to LAX, SEA, SFO at around 10pm. They leave the next evening, arriving JFK at around 6am. MSP, SLC, and DTW have them to ANC (dtw in the Summer), leaving late and arriving back on the allnigher. LAX has one to Guatemala City where you leave at Midnight day one, allnight to GUA, and then back to LAX on day three, all for 10 hours and 50 mins of pay. ATL has a bunch too to the West Coast, on 737s and 757/767s, and LAX 73N probably has the most, with 3 day allnighters to MCO, PHL, RDU, CHM, etc that can come back to LAX on night three and be worth 11 hours. If you come back in the morning on day three, you are worthless the entire day. I used to fly those types of trips, and then decided to go be senior on the MD88. If you want to look at them, it's not hard. Look at the bid packages for LAX, ATL, NYC, MSP, and SLC 7ER, and LAX/ATL 73N. Brutal. 5:15 should be min for EVERY DAY YOU ARE FLYING. Calednar day is huge. USair has that for their own Hawaii to PHX flights. Each 3 day is worth 15:45 according to my buddy over there flying them, and the trip flying time is less than 12 hours total from AZ.