Originally Posted by
Pilotbiffster
Not gonna discuss who is best for what in this forum. Believe what you want, even if you think the sky is pink. My point is that there are far more important considerations than just, "I'm voting my paycheck." I'm voting for my country and my children that have to live in this country. As far as "efficient government", that's the most oxymoronic expression I've ever heard

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Look at Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Sweden, Norway...
The role of government in those countries is bigger than in the U.S. but it's also much more efficient and at the end of the day people are doing much better in nearly every aspect.