Originally Posted by forgot to bid

I'd rather take the risk and let us vote on it then just have the MEC vote it down. I think a resounding no vote would be a big show of Bar like unity.

There really is no way to spin these numbers to a positive. There is no way it passes.

Unless this is the expectations game, manage lower then come in high. Makes the unacceptable look great! 15% in the first year? Sounds bad unless you're expecting 12%.