Originally Posted by tsquare

Then so what? It's a sell job. BFD. What bugs me about the way guys use that term is that it has a vitriolic connotation to it. It has a connotation that it will be propaganda filled and lie packed. If that is not what you mean, then I apologize and I look forward to productive debate. If it IS what you mean, then you and I need communicate no further because I know where you stand, and frankly then I don't care to have any dialog with you. Let me know if that is the case and I will add you to the list with Carl and Bacon...