Big freaking deal even if they do bring 80 or so 717/319's on board. The only reason they reversed plans to park all the DC9's is so they could manipulate the ratios. Once they achieve more outsourcing the DC9's are officially jettisoned along with MD88's coming up on heavy checks. I see more 75's leaving as well.

The snapshot of block hour ratios doesn't happen for a couple years. And in the end management can still trump all else with a get out of jail free card paraphrased from the proposed contract: "if oil goes up or any other thing out of our control....which legally we can make the case for pretty much anything under the sun, moon and stars....we can outsource even more RJ's and other planes we think up later".

Regardless of what PG, SF, Slow, etc tell you this contract is like swiss cheese and is spitting in the face of every single one of you as Delta pilots. You would have to be a freaking moron to accept this as is. Yet it will be sold/spun as a victory.

Down the road when the loopholes are fully exploited ALPA will take no responsibility (they never do). They will simply say...."you the pilot group voted yes, deal with it....and reserve/commuting is a choice". WAKE UP pilots! Dont keep making the same mistake. Take ownership of your future and your union.

Yes PG, Slow, etc hate the DPA, they want to maintain status quo and their FPL and nice lifestyle. Vote them off the freaking island. We can make the DPA a bottom up organization that borrows from the best of all pilots unions. Some said those who left Great Britain and who fought for independance in America were crazy too....for a while. In the end it was the only way to achieve the best life had to offer. It is time to get the ALPA monkeys off our backs and break free. ALPA secrecy, manipulation and self serving has gone on long enough!