Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
Fear, huh? Let's look at facts:
Airtran: 86 months in negotiations, they voted down a TA and didn't get another contract for about 5 years. They voted down the first TA with Southwest over seniority and just a short time later had to eat a much worse deal.
Continental: 47 months in negotiations
United: 36 months in negotiations
American: 60+ months in negotiations, now in bankruptcy
Airways: Merged in late 2005, now 80 months in negotiations
So what facts do you have to claim I am being fearful? The 29 month figure came from a slide that the NMB Chairwoman presented to the MEC and is posted on the ALPA website and included all the railroads which tend to have shorter negotiations. Why would she put that there? You can ignore facts and history at your own peril. Please don't tell me that we are going to bet our careers based on the advice of some internet blowhard. At least do some basic research first.
What's difficult to swallow here is you and the Union are pushing all this information about the length of time negotiations would take. This must be made on the assumption that our management is not planning to negotiate in good faith. If that is the case constructive engagement is a FAILURE!
We have been told over and over from you guys since bankruptcy that if we keep helping management out with all their issues it will pay huge dividends when we get to Section six. Well, apparently that is not the case since you are telling us management does not plan on being as accommodating as you guys thought.
This is something all of us should keep in mind going forward and during this vote ....oh, and please tell TO if he wants to compare our pay to any period in time it should be when we entered bankruptcy not when we exited just so he can get a better sound bite.
Very Dissapointed and no longer a supporter of Delta Air Lines!