Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
True, and it is something I am weighing. There is a lot of reason to think about this. The converse is true too. Would they stay stick it, and then go ahead with their plans anyway, leaving us out in the cold, and not enjoying any of the improvements? Honest question all need to answer, and not one based on anger or fear
(There are a lot of changes in here that are impressive, and the actual costing is always higher than the modeling)
They could say we were trying to do you a favor so stick it. But all of the talk about fleeting opportunities means it was not just a favor for us.
And I don't know why this has to be done quicker than the 717 deal was done. Seems just as big a deal.
Also, about 2015. If we pass this and in 2015 the economy is going gangbusters and they've merged us with Hawaiian or what have you, they'll probably have everything right where they want and then move to a long drawn out section 6 because that's a better deal for them if the economy is good. There's nothing here to me that says this is step 1 of 2 to restoration of anything.
Originally Posted by
finis72
Please don't mix fearful with thoughtful. RA and DL can just step away from this and stonewall us for a long time. The NMB probably will say the company bargained in good faith and we could well be into contract 2015 by then, that is a possibility to a no vote just as getting a better deal if we vote it down is a possibility. What is all this leverage you talk about ?, the only leverage I see is a happy pilot group would probably be more productive for the company in the long run. There is risk in a no vote, there is risk in a yes vote but don't say there is no risk or revert to name calling.
I think the leverage comes from the fact the RLA never puts time on our side. Delta has. They seem to want a deal done now. If we say no, I don't think they take it as an insult and walk away until 2015. I doubt they're emotional about this and I doubt they put so much effort into this as to be angry it was pushed aside.
And if they do get mad and draw this out, I'm okay with that. I'd rather have this contract then that one.