Yes ONT closed. The flying was for caljet. A vacation company that never really got up and going. There was no notice on this closure as well. There has been flying out of Laughlin about 2 days a week for the casinos. Right now they are trying to get more flying from the casino to make it viable to keep a plane out there. If there isn't the flying I can see them put the plane in IWA to pick up extra ICE flights. That worked really well when we had an extra plane for 2 months after Direct Air closed. Yes we haven't had 800s for 4 yrs. Not sure why that is on the website. The only reason I can think of is it shows we have been approved to fly 800s and they are still in our op specs. The Sai Pan gig was going to be 800s after a while. I haven't seen the second pay cut. There was talks of it from management,but the CP stood his ground. Yes a lot of people are getting discouraged and some have left more will thus starts the cycle of hiring more. I would think it would be a lot cheaper to just pay a little more and keep guys around rather than constantly train new guys. I am sure they have it all figured out. I was once told if someone stuck around for a year it was worth it for them. Seriously we might be hiring by the end of the summer.