Yup, and in the easts case they refuse to educate themselves, anything that goes against their views is immediatelly discarded, it really is a cultural issue back there. As an examPle, during the nicolau arbitration, the west pilots were given the actual transcripts of the hearings every day, on the east they thought the pilots couldn't handle it so they wrote an update every night. The update the east got was simple, "we won again today" was pretty much every single update they ever got, truly unbeleivable. Btw that very thought process continues today, with their leadership assuring them ultimate victory is right around the corner , truly sad