Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Slow says the leases start to expire in 2014 & 2015. Is your question:
(1) The beginning of 2015
(2) The end of 2015
(3) What is the net difference whether we accept, or refuse, this TA?
I think the answer to #3 is probably fewer RJ's and certainly fewer seats outsourced without the TA.
I think #3 is right.
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
So you want to let them cut 737 and 767 flying while they add 717's? We included all domestic because we wanted to include all domestic. That's the point, they can't play hide the ball.
Cut the 737 and 767 out of the MBH : DBH ratio? Absolutely.
Run the ratio off the 717, MD88 (not the 90) and 752. If you did that after we had acquired the 188 new jets and they went to the 450 jet fleet the ratio would near 1.0. If we kept the 1.56 ratio they'd have to reduce from 450 aircraft to 283. So I think at a minimum we should have more airplanes here then there on an apples to apples CASM basis, i.e. better than 1.0 in our favor.
By tying that ratio to the bigger domestic jets they're able to increase that DCI fleet to the
temporary 450
hard cap for now max.
I say all of that because if the CRJ-900 = Mainline CASM if not better, then we should only tie the block hours of those planes most threatened by the CRJ-900 only. Take out the 739, 763, 738, 90 and 753, and keep the ratio with the 752, MD88 and 717.
Hence the CRJ-900 ain't a 100 seat killer, it's David killing off Goliath.
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
I will go back to block hours. The very first input to determine line holders in the staffing formula is block hours. Not flight segments, ASM's, or any other metric. If you want to protect Delta pilot jobs, you want to protect as many as possible and you want to protect them with the key item that creates jobs. If we cut a 757 from JFK to LAX and replace it with an out and back in a 717 from ATL to SAV, you doubled the flight segments and cut the manning required by two thirds. Please go back and read the staffing formula and understand it. It is in Section 22 of your contract, I believe page 3 or 4.
My issue is as stated above, allowing the block hours from longer range domestic airplanes count in the calculation therein allowing the number of large RJs to swell and still meet the 1.56 ratio.
FWIW, played with the PBS staffing formula a few weeks ago. Would love to have the actual input data to play with. Had to guesstimate.
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
You didn't tell me what number you came up with in my math problem. No one else did either. I wonder why?
I answered your question. Just ran the numbers out using the fleet based off your 3.6M block hours and 53.9% belonging to mainline and let excel do the rest.
Sorry it took a few hours but hey, there is only so much time I have to fight for this pilot group here relying on information as it dribbles out and raise a family.