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Old 05-25-2012 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by grasshopper
I read it....FTB is right. It is entirely possible to downgauge mainline and create the ratios that are our "protection."

I understand block hours but do you really think they are going to just let some airframes sit around doing nothing? They are going to fly the crap out of every piece of metal here just like they should. Domestically it should be pretty close all around.

So if I retire 767-300 and fill it's capacity with 737x3daily...I've just helped meet that ratio. Also if I then terminate some of the uneconomical routing to small communities, I further improve the protection ratio. So I want to know where this big movement is going to happen.

I've never heard anyone say anything about "growth." We may hire a few prematurely but it will be more to flatten the hiring bubble at mainline. Overall it will be a permanent net loss as we are outsourcing more airframes permanently. If they don't have it, they won't use it. I just wonder how much then new work rules will really reduce the expanded mainline frequency manning requirements.

I'm not saying there aren't merits to this TA...it's just that it ain't nearly as rosy as everyone is trying to sell me.
I agree.

According to alpha's number there is 3.6M block hours and we have 53.9%.

IF THIS IS RIGHT... we could add airplanes but have a net reduction of mainline while reducing DCI to the 450 number, still have the same ASMs, near block hours for mainline, etc and be in compliance with the 1.56 ratio.

The left column is now, the right column is after we take 717s and exercise 739 options and the like to get the ASMs up. Sure I made the fleet numbers up on the right, but I just wanted to show we could buy new mainline jets and replace old ones with the help of the 76 seaters and keep that 1.9M block hours and with the reduction in 50-seaters you could still hit the 1.56 ratio:


Last edited by forgot to bid; 05-25-2012 at 05:59 AM.