Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
As best as I can tell, we made over 350 different back and forth proposals in this negotiation. Saying we accepted the first offer is not factually correct, it is the first time you have seen the whole deal, but don't confuse that for the first offer. Maybe you think the 351st offer will be the killer that gets you everything you desire.
The final negotiation came down to 1/5 of 1% of the value of our contract. Yes less than 0.02%. For a negotiation for a $30,000 car that would be like haggling over the last $50. So if you have made 350 offers in your car negotiations and you are now down to the last $50, what chance do you think you have of knocking another $5,000 off the price?
Vote anyway you want, but you are just kidding yourself if you think management is going to move in any fashion by voting no.
You and I have clearly had our back and forth in the past, but I hope you'll really listen to what I'm about to say:
I've been you alfa. I've been up to my eyeballs in data without having any time to interract with line pilots for a while. You can easily fall into a bunker mentality. That's where you and the rest of the MEC is right now. Not an insult, I just recognize it when I see it.
What you've stated in your entire post above (especially with what I've bolded) is that MEMRAT is really just a rubber stamp that's almost not worth the wasted time. I know you don't think that's what you've said, but you have. Here's why:
It does NOT matter if the NC has had 350 back and forths or 3,500. The NC and even the MEC are NOT the decision makers...the members are. It's not my opinion, it's the ALPA CBL's written language. O'Malley and all the reps have stated this over and over again. The decision makers have gotten this for the FIRST time. If we vote NO on this and send it back to the MEC, that will be the FIRST back and forth...not the 351st.
For you to state that we're kidding ourselves if we think management will move
in any fashion to our NO vote, then why have MEMRAT? Do you not see by this statement that you're devaluing MEMRAT to the point of a membership rubber stamp of the MEC's actions? This is how a top-down organization behaves...not a bottom-up one?
Seriously alfa, you have to consider the damage of what you've just said here. Your position dictates that you revise these comments.
Carl