FlyrNY I have to agree with you. Absolutely no offense to young guys coming in thru some sort of program. But for the industry's health and maintaining some integrity making pilots unique and respected, that is what we need. Unfortunately, as they say times have changed and we are the local bus drivers now racing to the bottom in salary and respect by passengers and management. Again this is meant in no way to bash the lower time guys having the oppurtunity to come into the industry, its the just reality, and because they lower mins, you have the revolving door. Management knows this and has the leverage to lower salaries and QOL. As they say , the prestige is gone unfortunately.