Originally Posted by
hockeypilot44
You have to at least be honest with the numbers. We lost 2 percent in profit sharing so that 12.8 is lower. To get this, we sold scope which is the equivalent to selling our jobs. Not good. Our new scope is not an improvement. I'm tire of reading that and hearing that. Stop patting yourselves on the back. YOU FAILED AND FAILED MISERABLY!!!! THIS WILL PROBABLY LEAD TO ALPA BEING DE-CERTIFIED!!!!
Thanks for sharing. I just have to remember your point of view is a little off from the mainstream:
Originally Posted by
hockeypilot44
It's the military guys that don't think for themselves that are going to vote this in.
Despite what you post above, scope is significantly tightened in this agreement. From JV to Alaska to DCI, there are more restrictions placed on how DL can use its code without Delta pilots at the controls, and this TA accelerates the transition of flying to the mainline.
The profit sharing conversion removes some risk from the table. In May of 2001 we were arguing over C2K (which some on this board voted against and now they're clamoring for restoration to, go figure). Less than 6 months later the first 400 of 1310 furloughs happened.
1060 of our pilots did not see one dime of benefit from that contract. If pre-tax income in 2013 is identical to last year pilots will see a $28 million reduction in profit sharing. Instead they'll receive about $260 million more in pay. If Iran attacks Israel, if Europe melts down, or if there's something that takes our profitability down pilots have pocketed an additional $40+ million in pay. If we are wildly profitable we still get 20% of the PTIX above $2.5 billion.
I think I'm going to modify my signature line for awhile..thanks for this, Scambo.
Originally Posted by
scambo1
You can choose to believe whatever you want, but you poison the (reasoning) pool if you put your hope and theory out there as fact.