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Old 05-27-2012 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
I really don't understand the debate on this TA. In 2015, the 7er will pay $216. In 2004, the 7er paid 267. So 11 years later, it will pay $51 less (or 19% less). 11 years later!

Did anyone think we would have any chance of meaningful restoration without a fight?
You realize that in 2015 Delta pilots will be leading the industry (again) in pay rates? And can you explain why the three airlines that never went bankrupt and have been profitable throughout this period (FDX, UPS, SWA) never caught up to those 2004 rates of pay?

Oh, can you show me how those "fighting" unions have produced better results? Maybe an NWA guy can remind us how much of a pay rate increase they got after a 14 day lockout in 1998.

I'm all for a fight if it gets us better results. I'll follow just about any path that produces better results. But advocating for a path that hasn't produced any results...

Originally Posted by scambo1

You can choose to believe whatever you want, but you poison the (reasoning) pool if you put your hope and theory out there as fact.