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Old 05-27-2012 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
You have to at least be honest with the numbers. We lost 2 percent in profit sharing so that 12.8 is lower. To get this, we sold scope which is the equivalent to selling our jobs. Not good. Our new scope is not an improvement. I'm tire of reading that and hearing that. Stop patting yourselves on the back. YOU FAILED AND FAILED MISERABLY!!!! THIS WILL PROBABLY LEAD TO ALPA BEING DE-CERTIFIED!!!!

We really didn't lose this 2 percent. We guaranteed it to be payed out to us. Lets say we have another "Bird Flu" epidemic and the company doesn't make a dime, well guess what, we still get that 2 %. Lets say the company makes the same amount they did 2 years ago which gave us a 6% profit sharing payout, guess what, with these current rates, you are still going to get a bigger check than you did 2 years ago.

You can not say that scope is not an improvement. It really is, it just isn't as big an improvement as I (and most others) would like to see. We gave up those 76 seat jets during bk (actually I didn't get to vote on it because I was on the street looking in, where were you). This actually has hard limits on numbers of aircraft and is for once tied to block hours and not number of airframes. That was the constant complaint from many of us prior, is that the company could have a ton of mainline aircraft on the books (just sitting on various ramps, deserts, etc) but are spares and not actually in full time service yet still be in compliance with the contract.