Originally Posted by forgot to bid

So I have to say, it sure looks like expectations were being managed for a reason, to achieve a predetermined low goal. A status quo if you will.

Because it is kind of interesting how the retort to a line pilot demanding higher pay was "what are you going to give up to get that?" When we started saying DALPA, that line was dropped.

But if higher pay was demanded, we were told to look around at the industry and to ignore SWA and Fedex and focus on UAL. When we looked around we couldn't help but notice SWA, we were told our low pay was due to them and that we should despise them. When we ignored that and said we still liked their pay, we were told do you want their work rules too? They require fewer pilots! We said we don't want fewer pilots, just their W2. Little did we know about the fewer pilots gag.

When we still talked about higher pay we were told expect a never ending section 6. That'd we never be released and time value of money and stuff.

Then after all of that we got this quick TA.

And you have to look at it and wonder was this not the plan all along? Unless we've been in negotiation far earlier than was announced, it seems as if inflation rates of 4/8.5/3/3 was the goal all along. Then you get all of these letters from mostly former NWA LEC chapters and it sure seems like there was a goal separate from the pilots, at least when you look at the pilot survey.

Now back to Section 1.