Originally Posted by
Jay5150
Norm,
I really wasn't trying to start a "my airline is better than yours" thing. I'm sure our contract is better than yours on the whole, because of the reasons you mentioned.
I just hate to see guys accepting management's squeezing more out of us. We know what "shiny jet syndrome" is, maybe this is "I'm lucky that airline x keeps me around syndrome." But to be happy about having to fly 90 or 95 hours to make what you need to make because of a low hourly rate, IMHO, is bad. To be happy about getting xx hours while having 11 days off, IMHO, is bad. I'd rather be beat with a bat than work 19 or 20 days a month. That's all.
On your points about our TA. I'm still a no, but many things are better than they first appeared. I think the pay rates are lower than we should agree too. However, according to some charts the union has put out, (and I have no idea how accurate their data is WRG to the SWA pay), when you add in the dc contribution, we will surpass their compensation by 2015. Again, I need to study it more, but it may well be raising everyones bar, and it begins now, not 2 years after the ammendable date.
Point is , alot is better than it first seemed. Food for thought.
Do I expect your next contract to surpass whatever we sign, or our current CBA? no. Spirit obviously doesn't generate the revenue or have the economies of scale to cover that kind of cost at this point. Just keep improving every time and don't be happy working like crazy if it's just to line BB's pockets.
Fair enough. But I am sure you understand it does seem like trolling if you drop two one liner posts with little content.
And for the record, I don't need to work that hard. All the bills were still paid on time when I made almost nothing on furlough. Actually I am looking at a 25 day long vacation (using two weeks only) that I could extend up to 32-35 or may be even a bit longer if I wanted to, and still collect my guarantee. All that while I am already set up for a transition conflict. It really does not suck working here.
Some people work 90h lines at top paid outfits as well. At Spirit there are plenty of guys who fly their line and float a trip for vacation every other month. Actually according to our CBT a pilot is free to drop everything month after month (no pay protection though) as long reserve coverage supports it. Also because of our new CBT, after some arbitration, it seems we have managed to force the company to hire more pilots than we have ever had per plane. I thought that was pretty cool.
Anyways. Good luck with that TA. The better you do, the better the chances for for the rest of us.