Old 05-27-2012 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
Shiz,
It is a unique law, from what I gather. However, some contracts are cleverly crafted to benefit one side while they are drafted to be a mutually agreeable document.

He has been at it for many years. Corporate, Corporate Contracts etc...The language is "loose" and non-enforceable. Nothing with the RLA or NMB. However, I trust him a great deal. He knows contracts so we can sit down without emotions and talk.

After reading the TA, I came to a NO conclusion. So I read again and again and again and again with the same conclusion. Then I noted that some pilots were pretty happy with this TA, so I thought,maybe, I read it wrong or missed something. So I read it again and came to the same, no, conclusion. That is when I thought to myself, "this is my future, lets get someone who knows contracts, to read it and explain to me without bias." His conclusion reinforced my decision.

Then again his lack of experience with RLA and NMB could be reinforcing my false opinion, but I doubt it.



DAL73n,

Im sure they will decipher the TA for you (buy them beer or give 'em a few bucks). I would be interested to see if you come to the same conclusion after they debrief you.

My 2 points of fail with this TA are:

1)Pay-The numbers are low. Sure you can make the numbers look bigger by adding them, compounding them, and including other metrics. I want bigger pay numbers with-out creative math I would like to see a minimum of 20/7/7. I would like 25/10/10.
2)Scope-90 seat aircraft dummied up to look like 76 seat aircraft belong to mainline. How long will it take Delta to allow the full 90 seats on them? Me thinks that even if we flew these aircraft for free, Delta would not allow it.

TEN
Actually, my personal minimums (which are/were flexible based on significant gains in other parts of the contract (e.g. a daily minimum of 5:30 or higher) were 10/10/4/4 with increases to the DC of 2%/year to 20% in 2015. Not sure what the cost to the company is but that would be 6%, 1.5%, 1%, 1% higher and 2%, 1%, 2% higher in the DC. The DC is crucial to me because I currently can't come close to maxing out the 415 limit of $51K even with a catch up of $22.5K (over 50 with a catch up). I want (need?) to get close to that 415 max so 20% gets me close and for higher paid F/Os and CAs they will be able to max out their 401K every year. While I have a number I can get by on at Age 65 my wife and I have big plans that will require a lot of money and I want to be able to enjoy my post 65 years (by the way, I plan to continue working (I enjoy my work both @ DAL and my side career) although my post 65 years I will be semi-retired.