Originally Posted by
slowplay
Keyboard Kommando Karl,
Please, once again, show me where I talked about "cost neutral" in a lying manner. Post number, please.
Originally Posted by
DoubleTrouble
Nice media school reply: don't answer the question asked, but answer another with what you want to say.
I asked about costing, specifically about the productivity concessions. I spoke to a
rep who told me the MEC has not seen real costing in years. So again, where is the costing on these concessions? Who directed the MEC to transfer overtime flying from senior to junior pilots?
From slowplay: "If Delta was going to save $1billion in RJ costs and put $1billion in your pocket instead how are you worse off?

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So you are saying DAL is giving us $1B the took from the RJ's? Really?
And more like Bastian was bragging to the investors how this is cost neutral and "institutionalizes" our BK agreement.
Originally Posted by
slowplay
Then your rep was misinformed or misheard your question. Detailed costing was briefed to the MEC.
I know you don't see this as a lie. You see this as you being so clever that none of us line dolts could possibly see through it. Well DoubleTrouble and many others see through it. He's was polite enough to refer to it as "nice media school reply", but it's really just a plain old lie. His question and point wasn't whether "detailed" costing had been given to the reps, but rather has "real" costing been given to the reps. When you answer that very plain question by claiming that the reps either "misheard" or "misread" when you've purposely changed the subject of his question, that's a lie. It's not cleverness, it's not spin, it's lying.
And as the LEC reps have warned us, the MEC (and its unelected bureaucrats like you) are too invested in this TA to describe it objectively. You just keep proving how right they are. Now our entire group has the danger of being sold during road shows by people who are too invested in this to describe it objectively.
We've got a tough road ahead.
Carl