Originally Posted by shiznit

Vacation per pilot at DAL is roughly 4 weeks/year. Increase it by :15.
10,500 x :15 x 28 = 73,500 hours

DAL Pilots spend approx 6 days per year at training. Increase it by :30.
10,500 x :30 x 6 = 31,500 hours

73,500 + 31,500 = 105,000 / 12 months = 8,750 hours

8750 / 87* hours = 100.57 = 101 MORE pilots needed for just those 2 provisions.

72 hours is the projected gain from the staffing formula changes.

So between staffing formula and vaca/trng pay increases we have wiped out well over half of what they are claiming in savings from the 300 number....

Don't forget that you are still full once you hit ALV, and no longer will all reserves be forced to fly up to the lineholder ALV... A reserve will be full at their individually calculated ALV..... Combine that with the increased values for VAC/TRNG and a reserve ALV will often be lower than the normal ALV for 5-6 months per year.


*The 87 is the official ALPA distributed number... using a lower divisor of 75:00 means it would be 117 pilots needed.


This is an extremely complex set of changes and getting hung up on a small piece of it is not good. It still might not stack up to what we want as a group, but make sure we evaluate it in its entirety and in light of the reality of our peers and the RLA/NMB. Still can't be sure I'm voting yes, its a daily swing for me too.