Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

Pilots also got reimbursed for laundry and tipping back then.... Big deal! Times have changed, and now our peers can't negotiate out of a paper bag, not helping us at all. 9-11, BK, and age 65 also screwed things up. It's not good to dwell on the past, rather concentrate on going forward and gaining as much as we possibly can within reasonable means. That means reasonable gains thanks to shorter duration contracts, not one big "gold mine" hit at once. Just not going to happen in today's negotiating environment. Ask the AA, UCAL, and US guys what I mean.