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Old 06-02-2012 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I don't think I ever said that. Also don't take my conversation with gloopy as my opinion of this TA, or how I will vote for it. My issue is with people who continue berate the NC, yet aren't willing to do the job they do. They insult the NC's methods, when they have no idea what their job truly entails. They will talk the talk, but not walk the walk.
Actually, our structure clearly spells out the role of the NC. We know exactly what their job is supposed to entail. We know for certain that the norms were not followed this time. We know for certain that the full MEC was NOT consulted when it was clear the company would not give what our surveys said the pilots wanted. Now did the NC make that decision on their own, or were their actions given a nod by the MEC administrators? That we may never know. We just know our reps were locked out of the process until a TA had been signed with management.

Originally Posted by johnso29
I don't think I ever said that. Also don't take If someone doesn't like the TA, that's fine. Just vote NO. But stop insisting that the NC rolled over, & implying that it's so easy to do a better job.
I don't think anyone's implying that the NC rolled over. We're just saying the NC agreed to something that did not meet the direction given to the NC by our reps. And those reps were not consulted again until there was a signed TA. Process really does matter. The incredible angst over this TA is proof of what happens when you ignore it.

Carl