Originally Posted by
ReasonableMan
I think it's just plain dumb to turn down the offer to have a share in the wealth of the company based on a principle that has failed every other pilot group before us. What makes us so different? I want to learn from the mistakes of others and not KNOWINGLY leave money on the table like we did during the JCBA negotiations. That's just plain insane. That's LONG TERM money that we will never get back. if those 717s that we didn't want go to DCI (and they will), that's LONG TERM flying, hiring, money that we will never get back. You will see that we have real job security built into this TA if you read it or call your Reps to get the explanation.
You are not a good historian. Other pilots groups have voted the first proposal down and done better on the second round.
Now some question for you:
1. If management offered a 4% raise each of the three years would take that deal?
2. If we allowed 10 777's to be flown by Republic pilots in return for management parking ALL of the 50 seaters you would take that deal?
3. You seem to be basing part of your decision to always vote yes on the notion second offers will always result in money being left on the table. So for you it is always an automatic yes vote if you stand to gain even one dollar (ignoring the fact management had no problem taking over 50% of pilot pay in a very short period of time) and work rules are being further gutted from what was taken during BK?
4. If the new reserve rules permanently decrease the need for pilots and the large RJ's produce an efficiency that allows them to fly mainline routes permanently you are ok with this? What if you are on reserve and have to work more to get paid more yet see your family and your own bed less. Was this worth the extra money to permanently give away more work rules?