Originally Posted by
Jack Bauer
You are not a good historian. Other pilots groups have voted the first proposal down and done better on the second round.
Now some question for you:
1. If management offered a 4% raise each of the three years would take that deal?
2. If we allowed 10 777's to be flown by Republic pilots in return for management parking ALL of the 50 seaters you would take that deal?
3. You seem to be basing part of your decision to always vote yes on the notion second offers will always result in money being left on the table. So for you it is always an automatic yes vote if you stand to gain even one dollar (ignoring the fact management had no problem taking over 50% of pilot pay in a very short period of time) and work rules are being further gutted from what was taken during BK?
4. If the new reserve rules permanently decrease the need for pilots and the large RJ's produce an efficiency that allows them to fly mainline routes permanently you are ok with this? What if you are on reserve and have to work more to get paid more yet see your family and your own bed less. Was this worth the extra money to permanently give away more work rules?
Are you referring to major carrier pilots like USAir, AAL, UAL/CAL, AirTran?
1. I need to see the ENTIRE contract to make a determination
2. Again, I need to see the ENTIRE contract to make a determination.
3. No, not at all but when I look at the overall picture regarding this TA, not just section 3, it's completely obvious that a YES vote is warranted. Am I completely satisfied, absolutely not. However, I see no benefit in going back to the table over a failed principle. If I look at each section individually, not understanding the full picture my vote is (and really used to be) NO.