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Old 06-03-2012 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Jack,

I'm not a good historian as far as your statement above. Could you provide me with the names of these other pilot groups? Thanks.

Denny
Hawaiian, ASA, Skywest. I believe Alaska and Southwest as well as one of the large cargo carriers (UPS/Fedex) did as well. Don't get me wrong....I know this is the new standard trick management plays (send a second offer that is worse) to get guys to say yes please on the first but it is a horrible reason to start lapping up whatever is offered. Just plain sad and shows no self respect for the pilot who votes yes on these scraps (which likely lower QOL) or the industry they work in.

From another thread....

"You are correct. It was HAL's TA that was developed by their MEC in bankruptcy court. Their MEC urged a YES vote. The membership voted it down and told the MEC to back to the judge and do better. In bankruptcy court no less! There's some cajones right there. Anyway, the judge and MEC quickly added a number of very good improvements from pay to many other areas, and put TA #2 out for membership vote. The members overwhelming voted YES. It was quite a proud moment."