Originally Posted by
johnso29
I don't think I ever said that. Also don't take my conversation with gloopy as my opinion of this TA, or how I will vote for it. My issue is with people who continue berate the NC, yet aren't willing to do the job they do. They insult the NC's methods, when they have no idea what their job truly entails. They will talk the talk, but not walk the walk.
If someone doesn't like the TA, that's fine. Just vote NO. But stop insisting that the NC rolled over, & implying that it's so easy to do a better job.
I didn't say they rolled over. Since we are in extra early openers right now, regardless of how full blown Section 6 goes and our timeline in it, we don't have the leverage of even a potential strike down the road. IOW, this round the ball is all in the company's court. So I believe the NC when they say "this is all we could get right now"...the operative part being right now. This is all the deal is worth to them, right now, with zero strike leverage on our part even theoretically. If the company wanted to offer one penny per year to be split 12000 ways, then technically that's "all we could get", right now. But "right now's" offer may or may not be the best long term deal for us, especially considering the numerous give backs and quids in the TA.
My issue with what you said is your implication that basically any offer to increase DCI size/weight/seat counts automatically becomes a new era starting point where we then have to "negotiate it down". That is rediculous.
As for me being a hypocrite for not running for NC, well, doesn't that standard apply to anyone with an opinon on the TA? Unless we have 12000 pilots on the ballot then everyone that didn't run has to shut up and color and take everything presented to them without challenge? Really?