There is a lot of upward movement here but then negative movement there. Some guys on here say hey look the turboprop seat number has changed and intl JV language is tightened. However; it's plain to see that we gave where management really wants to take. Then they gave in the guise of raises but lowered compensation in the 401k stuff. I too started out as a yes vote but have slowly thought and read the TA a couple times and have come to the conclusion that all this rushing surely stinks. I used to think it was a North distrusting management thing and a South blindly following thing. What Carl said really struck a chord in me, The pilots spoke in the contract survey and the MEC did not deliver. I took a hard look at my paycheck and saw how much dues were going to our so called Representation. Looks like the MEC just didn't listen and things went too fast. Send it back!