Yeah, I'm sorry that I compared us to the largest airline in the world even if they do put the fun in dysfunction. Delta TA A320 rate= $209/hr, UAL A320 rate= $137/hr. Our A320 Captains will make as much as a USAirways A320 cockpit crew. It sure appears that dysfunction hasn't paid.

Now we're getting somewhere. What has SWAPA's path to their passenger industry leading pay rates been? Dysfunction or something else? Oh, at the end of this TA we'll have a 737 rate of $216.92 with 15% DC. They have $216.22 with a 9.4% 401K match. They're amendable 9/30/12. I hope they raise the bar.

As to the rest, I can cherry pick any point in somebody else's contract and make us/them look bad. How does SWA every day on short call sound? How about their ability to be deadheaded on a jumpseat?

Your point about HAL is wrong...they have a targeted plan that pays up to 19.4% for some individuals with low frozen DB's...just like the North pilots have at Delta. Their new hires get 15%, just like under this TA. But their A330 pilots currently make $199/hr. Under this TA ours will make $255/hr. Still want to use them as an example?

Alaska and crew meals? I'll take our $35 per hour higher payrate with this TA and buy my own, thanks. I remember what crew meals were like when we had them.... They do have a nice deadhead policy, and are a great operation. I hope they can remain standalone.

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