The A plan in the new contract is going to be put in the same plan as the managers DB plan. What that means is that IF they ever try and screw with it at some point in the future, they will have to screw with their own plan and you know that aint gonna happen! I hate UPS as much as the next UPS pilot, but lets get real here. UPS is NOT an airline so don't compare it to the legacy carriers. UPS is one of a handful of AAA rated corporations in the world. They and their pension plans will be around for the long haul.