Originally Posted by forgot to bid

When I made the jab that maybe SWA/FDX/UPS make more than us because they have better scope clauses you said why didn't their scope clauses give them our C2K rates? So C2K rates became a benchmark of success.

However, we don't have C2K rates either and we have a liberal scope policy. We can't throw stones at them for not having C2K rates and I just wanted to point that out.

So to me a C2K rate comparison is extraneous to this point- they have better scope now, they make more money now.