Originally Posted by
slowplay
How'd SWA get where they are? And SWA, UPS or FedEx, whose companies have had sustained profitability and no bankruptcy ever reached the payrates that we achieved 8 years ago?
Originally Posted by
slowplay
If that's how they did it, why are they (FDX, UPS, SWA) still below our C2K 2004 rates (by a long shot) even though they never went bankrupt and have been profitable companies that entire time?
Because FDX, UPS, SWA never chose to sell out their scope. It is easy to gain hefty raises when you decide you are going to allow the company to outsource half the flying to the lowest bidder. When the company is allowed to hugely increase their profit margins due to outsourced labor they are obviously willing to share some of those profits with the very group that allowed them the increased profitability. The company is still way ahead in the game even while sweetening the pilots paycheck. The only problem is it is an unsustainable position on the part of the pilot group. The company will always desire more outsourcing because it always helps the bottom line. If you make the work that your group does a liability where do you go from there? Why is everyone clamoring to put the genie back in the bottle now? The answer is because trading scope for pay was a terrible decision in the first place.