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Old 06-04-2012 | 09:23 AM
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From: No to large RJs
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
*of note those that will vote no because of more large rj's need to understand that even a reworked deal will likely include em. The truer question is; " are the quids worth the trade?"
I believe this to be true. I also believe ALPA is not capable of holding the RJ scope line. IMO, the company will be back at the table pronto due to this crack like RJ addiction. It is the reason they came to us.

IMO, ALPA and MGT are aligned in wanting to outsource our work. Neither want a strike. They both want labor peace. They both want to minimize one groups power over their source of income. Outsourcing does it for both. Did anyone advocate outsourcing more large RJs in their survey?

People need to think long and hard about this scope trade you speak of. It will be there in the next TA if this gets voted down. A comparison of fleet size usually sheds some light on our outsourcing. I am just listing the 70-76 seaters, since by themselves is bad enough and is of most concern.

Delta TA (70-76)=325

Entire fleet sizes of other airlines

AirTran = 140
Alaska = 119
HAL = 42
Jetblue = 172
Spirit = 40
US Airways = 339
Virgin = 51

source, APC

We are going to outsource 70 more large RJs. More airframes than 3 of the airlines listed above, just in this TA alone. These aren't 30 seat props, but mainline jets that we should be flying. This outsourcing dwarfs Hawaiian and is almost as large as US Airways in fleet size, both are Legacy airlines. I hope we will vote this down and any more TAs with these scope trades. Keep it up and soon their will be nothing left to trade. But at least ALPA and MGT will be happy.