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Old 06-07-2012 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pete2800
They fell off in flight. If she watched them being removed, did she see them being installed? How does she know that they weren't?


I've watched those pop-in inspection covers come off in flight more than once. It's what they do, especially if they're not all fresh and springy. Part of the territory of flying old airplanes.

Also... an un-airworthy airplane? Tell her to show you in the Flight Manual where it states that those plates are required to be installed. If the manual for a Cub is anything like the manuals that came with the old Champs I used to fly, they're about 20 pages long, and don't have an equipment list that I can recall... It was the 40's. Nobody cared. It's back when flying was dangerous and smoking was safe. Man I dislike people like that.
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Originally Posted by jayme
They didn't come off in flight because whoever took them off has them. Don't claim that they did, you'll just hang yourself.

However, in over 9000 hours of commercial flying, I have never heard of anybody getting any kind of letter from the FAA for such a thing. You filled out the NASA form. Like somebody else said, now forget about it.

If the witch rats you out, she'll just look like an idiot.
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
In addition to the ASRS report I'd ask her if she knew they were removed, why didn't she or the mechanic properly inform you and the rest of the club that the aircraft was left in an unairworthy state. Sounds like you need some sort of SOP that red flags aircraft under maintenance. If she knew the plane was unairworthy and knew you were going flying but didn't say anything, she has some culpability as well.
This is a good time to shut her up with your commercial vs private knowledge. (After you do your research) ask her to show you in the manual where removing covers (and what quantity) makes it un-airworthy. Then ask her how she could not know that and query whether there may be other holes in her aviation knowledge. But i may be more petty and vindictive than you.

This would be a good time to give input to the club on a better system for flagging for MX.

Didn't see if this was answered in the AC because I couldn't open the link, but you can use ASRS as many yimes as you want. One can only use one to defend an enforcement action every five years. So file whenever you feel you need to. It is a valuable program to spot trends and hopefully fix problems that may reoccur.
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