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Old 06-12-2012 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by eruption
What has happened to the younger generation? I mean you! There are no guarantees in life. When you started flying, there was no "guarantee" that you would be working for any major airline. You put money in your 401K without any guarantee. You have children and there's no guarantee that they will grow up leading a successful life, etc.

Sometime, there comes a point, that you have to look at yourself in the mirror and ask...."is this the best I can do".

If you are OK with this contract and think YOU have given all you can to get this deal, vote yes. All I am saying is I have been here 22 years and my best years all DAL were the first 3 years.

Then the merger/consolidation cycle started with PanAm and this career at DAL, in terms of QOL and now pay, after BK, has been steadily going down hill.

Do you think this cycle is going to stop? Just look at the NWA/DAL merger....Are there more airplanes, more pilots, UPWARD movement?

This TA keeps the "trend" line in a downwardly direction.....300 permanent jobs lost, higher ALV, working more days......

Yep, 325 76 seat RJ's should raise a huge red flag. If you are basing this "take it know" approach because of the uncertainty of the economy.....This one item should be enough to vote NO.

Because once they are on the property, if DAL re-enters BK, those extra 70 airframes could be the difference between getting furloughed/displaced backward or not.

There's a huge difference between 255 and 325 large RJ airframes. Mark my words....This one Scope item is going to come back and bite us down the road.
I agree. Trading work rules (more productivity) and allowing the regional's to get their second wind with large RJ's is extremely short sited. One thing this industry has proven in the last 15 years; representation is not what it should be and pilots will buy off on management talking points (ie Mr. Campbell) as issues through the union (the new management mouthpiece). There is no long term strategy to make the job comfortable while maximizing time with family and increased compensation without working harder/spending more time on the road.

Instead, we keep allowing "productivity" to get pushed up. There is no question, THIS contract (not the next one or the next one after that) is/was our best shot to make some real improvements. There should be/have been a 5 or 6 hour minimum daily guarantee, no more large RJ's (rather a reduction of all RJ's large and small) and a big boost in pay and not more work rule give aways. A lot of guys have now officially been trained to buy off on the "vote yes for the first offer, the second will be worse" mantra. All these things added together spell a dismal future for this profession specifically for those with more than 5-10 years left. Many will keep the blinders on though and jump at the first pay raise, all other things be damned.